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Wacko
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So it's basically, how many kills you get - how many times you get killed x % won...

I think you should use points, instead of coredumps, because that takes into account shooting, and losing -1 when you hit a easywayfornoobstowin-zone... or deathzone or whatever they're called.... as these things are a skill in theirselves aren't they?
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Okay, I've got a realy problem with the ladder... I did a search for Wargasm and I was in rank 1!

1 ctxwargasm

So I was about to celebrate when I refreshed the ladder and I was in 2nd place under Infamous (still celebrating).

1 |x|_infamous
2 ctxwargasm

Hmm... Okay, so filtering the listing by name does not show proper GLOBAL ranks, only ranks for the filter. That needs to be fixed...

Well, then I did something else, I clicked Go! on the Find Me box without entering any search criteria and (WTF!?) I'm in 6th place?!

1 \\''\\
2 |x|_infamous
3 red
4 |x|_pl4y3r_1
5 sagelord1
6 ctxwargasm

Why is it NOT showing anyone except infamous and myself in the default listing? I'm refering to only the top 6 there, the trend continues... For example, in the top 10 is also ctxx3v1 (shown). But it is not showing powerz, man_of_rome and -|ct|-kilabit-.

The top 10 SHOWN by default is...

1 |x|_infamous 63.44
2 ctxwargasm 32.47
3 ctxx3v1 154 31.51
4 |x|_$_bzero 24.03
5 ct~voodoo 15.78
6 shaik_s._jazz 15.17
7 |x|_w4z3r 14.46
8 ~_x_~ 273 14.06
9 gerard 12.41
10 hyperbyte 12.27

But the actual top 10 NOT SHOWN unless entering an empty "Find Me" is...

1 \\''\\ 72.25
2 |x|_infamous 63.44
3 red 59.50
4 |x|_pl4y3r_1 42.00
5 sagelord1 33.33
6 ctxwargasm 32.47
7 ctxx3v1 31.51
8 powerz 28.93
9 man_of_rome 27.78
10 -|ct|-kilabit- 27.34

I left the ladder sort score in for your reference. So, what's going on? Bug or feature?

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also when you sort by the categories when you search, it reverts back to the top 100 list

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wargasm> the players need to play a minimum number of rounds before they appear on the ladder (50 i think). But the search finds all players, with no minimum.


You'll see that \\"\\ hasn't played enough to qualify for the actual ladder.
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What infamous said.

You're right, the page itself could do with some work.
The search facility was just put there to find yourself if you're not in the top 100, or haven't yet played 50 rounds. The fact you can filter by like named players was merely a bonus I left in.
I won't have any time in the next couple of weeks to do anything new to it, but if any CT server tech want to have a play around with it be my guest. Just please back up the original somewhere.
If you do, bear in mind there is also the ladder_dumps table data you might want to include somewhere, the table structure is described up there ^ somewhere.
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I am loving the new stats. Great job. I'm currently #3 overall, #5 %won, #2 coredumps, #2 in points.

How the HELL did |x|_infamous get 62.40 on the ladder! That is some serious skill (#1 overall, #1 %won, #1 core dumps, #1 low suicides, #1 in points). Wow... And that's with more than double the number of rounds played as myself. We must recruit this guy into CT, steal him away from |x|.

Aside from that, the only thing I do not like is that the "Rank" column is simply a counter rather than an actual rank. Can anything be done to show the actual rank when using the Find Me? If they haven't played enough to be ranked, it should say "n/a". Otherwise it should show the actual rank of whatever column you are currently sorting by.

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yeah he is playing all the day, he hasn't life Razz Rofl

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lol thanks wargasm, I don't think I can be stolen Wink


Xevi>I don't play that much really, On Wrtl's "who has played the most" stats thing, i was never much higher than top 50. I just hate losing so much, even in a fun match on ctwf.
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lol thats shit with the 'find me' thing. 50 rounds to play to get into the list is perfect (i thought its 100)
look at me. lmao i played so much that i need much more time to get any + points xD
but its better becous its ok if i lose sometimes ingame becous it doesnt change much in the rank list Very Happy
inf is lucky becous everytime we play together in one team Very Happy we allready won more than 10 matches without any loseing round (12-0) Very Happy
but i realy need to change my suicude stats lol i die to much at rim walls Very Happy

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May be we should use the last n days or the last n results or any kind of combination of this... this way we have the current ladder.
We can store the top xx as well like every week and/or month ...
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yeah cool ideas 4 improving it, but it depends of ed's time...

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xevic wrote:
yeah cool ideas 4 improving it, but it depends of ed's time...

ed wrote:
I won't have any time in the next couple of weeks to do anything new to it, but if any CT server tech want to have a play around with it be my guest. Just please back up the original somewhere.
If you do, bear in mind there is also the ladder_dumps table data you might want to include somewhere, the table structure is described up there ^ somewhere.
voodoo can edit it if he wants

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do you provide cats or dogs ladder? Smile

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I'd prefer removing the 50 rounds limit and adding a log($rounds_played) factor in all the percentage stats…

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What Voodoo asked for, only show the last n days of activity is fairly simple to do, it's designed for just that. I've been waiting till there's enough data in there to make it worthwhile. I will do this soon.
I'm thinking the last 21 days. Sound ok?
The other things you ask for are all possible, just involve the time to write them. Feel free Wink

What wargasm wants, a rank field that moves as you sort or search. This is possible, but would involve a reshuffle of the way the whole thing works. The ladders page is currently looking at live data, so the "Rank" to assigned as the page is built.
Certainly wont be any time soon by me. I have a few CTFW maps on various scraps of paper I'd like to bring into the world before I spend a great deal more time on the stats. And I wont have time to do them for at least a week.

The rounds limit is currently set to 100 rounds played before you show on the "official" ladder. It was only 50 for the first couple of days.
The trouble with no limit is someone could enter the fortress, have 5 blinding rounds and be straight to the top of the ladder. If they then changed their name they could be at the top of the ladder for 3 weeks (once ^ that work is done).
Keeping your level of play high for 100 rounds or more is the tough part.

Catfight Ladders..hmm.
I'd like to get the ladders working for Mayhem first, I'll need to modify the ladderlog.txt parse script a little to include matches won, as well as rounds - this is most important there, as with Cat. Once it's done for Mayhem, it can be easily used for Cat.
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